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Postby andie » Oct 14, 2004 @ 5:18am

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Postby Conan » Oct 19, 2004 @ 5:21pm

I work for a law firm ( in an I.T. capacity )
What we do for clients who have problems with websites is have the domain name taken away from the offending people. This does not seem to be too time consuming a task so not very expensive. I will have a chat to one of the relevant lawyers next time I'm in that department to see what steps they go through.

Perhaps a fighting fund (who holds the money though?) would allow the worst sites to be taken off the air.
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Postby andie » Oct 19, 2004 @ 5:35pm

Hi Conan -

What a great concept!

If memory serves, the fees to shut down a website are less than $1000 US. And this can be done direct, but of course an experienced attorney whom can walk into the Supreme Court in Arlignton, Virginia would be worth the $500 fee they charge.

Thanks so much for the feedback and let us know what else you learn.

I will begin talks with the PM team regarding your concept/idea for a legal fund.

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Postby sponge » Oct 19, 2004 @ 8:10pm

holy internets batman.
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Postby David Horn » Oct 19, 2004 @ 8:50pm

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Postby Conan » Oct 19, 2004 @ 11:46pm

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Postby Guest » Oct 20, 2004 @ 6:23am

The issue was resolved a couple of says after I posted. All I did was traced the domain to the ISP and emailed the ISP. I didn't think I would have much luck since the ISP is in the Netherlands, but to my suprised they were willing to help. Though I figured they would have pull all the content from the site, instead they jsut asked me to send them a link and the names of the titles I wanted pulled. They had one of my applications and one of my games as a full cracked released, so even if I patched it... I wouldn't have been able to stop them. The ISP notified the website owners (Russians) and they pulled the titles. It's still very unfortunate though since I was hoping they would have pulled it all. There are MANY titles there and quite a few are from the developers that are here and in this very thread. Of course, I'm revamping the protextion routines but let's be honest... nothing we do will stop them from cracking anything. And the problem with PPC games/apps are they are small enough to just release the full program instead of a patch to crack. I'm not giving out the site's name. I'm sorry, but that will only promote it. I suggest that every developer search and look for cracks for their programs.
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Postby TT » Nov 22, 2004 @ 4:46pm

Well, I think there's no way to protect your app from being cracked.

Here, in Russia, you can freely buy "pirated" CDs with cracked software near almost every subway station. Software collection worth over $3000 (AutoCAD, Photoshop, CorelDraw, Windows etc) can be bought for 80 roubles (less than $3). Specialized industrial CAD/CAM software for $2000-3000 each is "more expensive" - from $10 to $150.

So you can obtain any software almost for no cost.

Why? I'll tell you. Average person gets about $300-400 monthly. Now the expences: $30 house rent, $100 at least - food, $20 - subway and buses... Houseware and clothes - let it be as small as $50, Internet ($30) and cellular calls ($20-$50). It's already $250... If you don't own a car (then expences increasing dramatically). Something definitely should be left for entertainment, health and so on...

So I, for example, cannot afford to buy software for my PC and PDA. "Software pirates" are just using it...
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