On the subject of shit that annoys me...

[Brig]

[chuck]

and you still need to admit that religion is a philosophy.

[Andy]

An unnecessarily limited one, at that.

[James S]

I think that most philosophies boil down to saying the same underlying thing: this is how life is, this is how life ought to be, and it should be like this because I say so, here are my personal limited observations that back up my opinion.
And yet they don't state it like an opinion. Each philosopher mainly claims to hold total truth on the subject matter about which they write.

I guess I'm mostly Kantean because I believe there is one underlying truth, and to have all of these people (including Kant) claiming that their prescription for life is the way to go is ludicrous. The fact that there are so many different philosophies is all I need to have the opinion that philosophy is intellectual defunct. Because there should be only one universal definition of life, because there is only one form of life, and that's to be alive.

I suppose I'm old fashioned and conservative. I don't believe in this Relativism craze that is hitting today's youth. What is moral for one person should by definition be moral for another. Universalism is where the definition of life should be found, not in this pansy ass "everyone's a free spirit to live according to their own philosophy." It's ass backwards and counter to everything about humanity as a whole.

Religion is history, philosophy is thought.

You might not believe in a particular history, but that is what the difference boils down to regardless of whether you accept that difference. I suppose it's time to cede to you all's sense of Relativism and say that you can believe in whatever history you care to, I mean, none of us were there to see the Buddha conjure the Spirit of the Earth to flood Maya's army when he reached Enlightenment during the third watch of the night, let alone when Brahma emerged (from the flowering lotus that grew from Vishnu's navel while he was reclining on his serpent couch in the primordial ether) to create the cosmos.

[Caesar]

Since you're all arguing over semantics, why not come up with a definition of 'philosophy' that you can all agree upon, then continue this discussion?

[James S]

ehh, redefining ordinary words is far too philosophical for me

[Andy]

[James S]

Well, see, that's your hypothesis. Some people may think you have the cause and effect reversed.

All religions are set in the realm of history. They tell a series of events, pertaining to a lineage of characters, refering to real locales and at real time periods. Let's just negate the fact that you may not believe in the divine interventions of some of these events, but regardless the stories are about a particular time and place in the past.

Philosophy is just thought and opinion about a particular time period.

[Maf54]

So religion is philosophy with made up stories to get the point across?

[James S]

If that's how you want to see it.

And if so, what's wrong with me thinking philosophy is sanctimonious didactics?

[Maf54]

The problem is that you have no place to call someone or something else sanctomonius.

[James S]

Ohhh! Ad hominum! Booo!

[Maf54]

Ad hominem?

[refractor]

[Maf54]

Ad hominem!