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The History of America

PostPosted: Nov 10, 2005 @ 4:39pm
by NYIllustrator

PostPosted: Nov 10, 2005 @ 7:26pm
by Kzinti
Oh you meant: "The History of the United States of America".

PostPosted: Nov 10, 2005 @ 8:22pm
by James S
Oh, it's that fat dude's show about guns being bad... It was funny until I saw him and Oprah and realized it was supposed to be serious.

PostPosted: Nov 10, 2005 @ 9:31pm
by NYIllustrator

PostPosted: Nov 10, 2005 @ 9:33pm
by Maf54

PostPosted: Nov 10, 2005 @ 11:17pm
by chuck

PostPosted: Nov 10, 2005 @ 11:28pm
by Kzinti

PostPosted: Nov 11, 2005 @ 8:34am
by sponge

PostPosted: Nov 11, 2005 @ 11:00am
by RICoder

PostPosted: Nov 11, 2005 @ 4:46pm
by Jaybot
Nah, I think you're off by a bit there, RIC. It's not that they hate American's limited view of diversity or cultture or any of that garbage; it's more along the lines that they despise our corrupt government and the vast amount of ignorant idiots we have in our country (which is a lot, becuase we have a pretty big government and lot more people than most European countries combined).

But don't get them wrong, they all hate and distrust corruption in their own governments and hate their own ignorant idiots just as much.

It's just that we have more (corruption and ignorant people) in each category in the US. :)

PostPosted: Nov 11, 2005 @ 11:46pm
by Kzinti

PostPosted: Nov 12, 2005 @ 2:10am
by RICoder
Well, I brought it up because the "gun thing" is just another thing that people bitch about. Frankly, it seems that every time I turn on the TV or browse a forum, I get overwhelmed by anti-US crap.

Jaybot, I don't deny that what you say is true, its just that I find it all very hypocritical. It's probably unfair of me to liken this guy I work with to just about every non-US liberal, and hell just about every US liberal, but I think he is a good cross-section. He's from an Asian country, and all he does is complain that the US government sucks, our people are ignorant, and only people who have travelled Europe are aware of how the world REALLY is. It gets tired, and I'm honestly just sick of it all.

I look around and I see stupid people, and I see ignorant assholes, and I see things in my government I don't like. However, I look around my country and I see generosity the likes of which exist nowhere else. I see hospitality that is unmatched in Europe. I see a government that gets ragged on because a couple of hundred people die in a disaster that would have whiped out thousands or tens of thousands in other countries. I see diversity of culture, the melting pot, that is unlike anywhere else on earth. I don't think people outside the US have a true grasp of what we are all about.

Yeah, the politics seem scary if you aren't the ones holding the big stick, and I can appreciate that. But honestly, we've conquered so many countries in so many wars in the past 100 years, and never once taken land or money, only asked to bury our dead. If we were the imperialists people say we are, we'd already own Iraq...and Kuwait...and Germany...and every Island in the Pacific...and Japan...and France.

But, that's me, and that's that, and I don't expect anyone else to appreciate it the way I do.

PostPosted: Nov 12, 2005 @ 4:54am
by Andy

PostPosted: Nov 12, 2005 @ 9:00am
by Jaybot

PostPosted: Nov 13, 2005 @ 9:29am
by RICoder