thanks for your reply, i hope you're comprehensive with beginners :')
there are several points i still don't understand:
1/ is matrixpocket.com phantom's website ?
2/ download section of this site has no wince files where can i find last release you talked about ?
3/ that's not a question: thanx to phantom for easyCE that i find very smart and easy to code (i'm enjoying c++ again after 5 years of delphi (argh no delphi under WCE ? useless

)