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Postby Maf54 » Dec 7, 2003 @ 12:04am

I have Hubbard he was a scifi writer long before I knew of Scientology. I also think Battlefield earth was a great book turned into a sucky ass movie. As for all the alien stuff that is "secret." If it's so secret, how do you know about it?
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Postby Bjorn Keizers » Dec 7, 2003 @ 12:15am

Just because the Scientology people don't talk about it, doesn't mean it's not out there.

I have several sources for this info, including websites, several newspaper articles from good Dutch newspapers [I have access to a database with all newspapers so it's easy to find a lot of info about any particular subject] as well as from former Scientology members and organisations like RONSORG, which is scientology newspeak for Ron's Organisation. That's also how we found out about things like SEAORG, the Orgs and auditing.

The reason I researched this was because we're doing a short item about religion for our Journalism and Theology classes [I study journalism] Since september, some 50-75 of a total of around 300 scientology members here in The Netherlands were kicked out of / split from Scientology, and all were declared SP's, which means Suppressive Person - scientology members are not allowed to talk to SP's because they are deemed dangerous to the church, and may be dealt with "by any means" according to church policy.
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Postby Maf54 » Dec 7, 2003 @ 12:21am

Could you give me any links to this stuff?
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Postby Bjorn Keizers » Dec 7, 2003 @ 12:40am

Sure. All the newspaper articles are in dutch though, so I don't think you'll need those :-) Here are a few of the more relevant links in English I've collected. This is only a very small part of the research I did and the people I talked to.

Scientology's main website:

http://www.scientology.org/

Xenu.net, all about exposing scientology. Some good general info, if a bit biased at points. You'll also find some info on Xenu and such there. [it's down at the moment, unfortunately. Gets hacked twice a week by Scientology zealots, apparently :D ]

http://www.xenu.net

Freezone, which is sort of a hub for RONSORG. Ronsorg is made up of people who seperated from the "official" church and formed their own group. They still believe in the Tech and the teachings, but they offer a cheaper alternative. As I said, courses can cost hundreds of dollars, sometimes running in the thousands, per hour.. you'll find some indepth info on the Tech as well as operational structure and hierarchy [it's in there, but difficult to find]

http://www.freezone.de/english/

RONSORG yahoo group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ronsorg/

General info about Scientology and Dianetics:

http://www.exactscientology.net/
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Postby Maf54 » Dec 7, 2003 @ 12:42am

Thanks. :)
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Postby sponge » Dec 7, 2003 @ 1:08am

holy internets batman.
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Postby sandmann » Dec 7, 2003 @ 1:34am

The fates lead him who will;
Him who won't, they drag.

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Postby Andy » Dec 7, 2003 @ 1:53am

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Postby sandmann » Dec 7, 2003 @ 1:55am

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