Video games and cars...

[Maf54]

[sandmann]

[Lukas44]

woe is me!
Now I have to dig up:
Early Church Fathers.
Biblical evidence.
Details on Darwin.
Details on Genisis.
Problems of "old Earth" senario.
Problems of Evolution.

Sorry but I will be away this weekend...
Perfect timming to run away from this avalanch!lol.

How did I put myself in this mess? Oh yeah, I opened my big mouth.
Dam if I'm the only one on this side of the debate then I might as well take my feeding tube out and put myself out of this misery!
Yes veg people like me can think. The conciousness is limited by, but not directly attached to the physical tissue of the brain(saw this on nova). An example is that an increase in memory & knowledge does not increase the brain tissue. Smarter people do not have larger brains. How is it being stored?
Ask Ms. Schiavo!
See you all tuesday! By then she will have starved to death and mayby this thread will have starved too!

[Maf54]

Well if you think Vegitative people can think maybe you should let the ones in charge of deciding if you live or not when in such a state know the way you feel about that. Thats what Terri Schiavo did. Sorry that we don't allow you to just pull facts out of your butt. This isn't the O'Reilly factor.

[sandmann]

You have a flaw in your reasoning, Lukas. You said that mental capacity is associated with, but not determined by physical realities in the brain -- and the evidence you provided is that as you grow smarter, your brain doesn't get bigger. That has nothing to do with the fact that her frontal cortex is shot to hell. Your brain is remarkable in its plasticity, but not even the human brain can recover from that kind of physical shock.