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Postby James S » Jul 15, 2002 @ 8:24pm

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Postby Paul » Jul 15, 2002 @ 8:45pm

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Postby James S » Jul 15, 2002 @ 9:02pm

I really can't answer most of that. I don't know what happens after death, no one really does.

I really don't think God will let a really good person go to Hell just because that person hasn't heard of Jesus. Maybe one day that person will be flipping through channels and come upon a religious show catch a word or something to get him interested. Maybe he pumps into a priest on the street who treats him nicely. Or maybe no opportunity presented itself so God brings him to Heaven.

Going to Heaven and Hell is not based solely on believing or not believing. But believing in Jesus makes it close to a sure thing. Sorry about that "Washing the sins" thing. I was just trying to make it clear how or why believing in Jesus works.

People can't just be the Anti-Christ then ask for forgiveness. God isn't dumb. He knows everything, He knows what's in a person's heart, if a murderer is really sorry for what he did or if he's just trying to play it safe by "finding Jesus." But God does give people the benefit of the doubt. Judging a person for who they are and what they deserve is what happens in the end of time, Judgement Day. And sure, maybe God judges you some on death, maybe it's just a small preliminary judgement: "do you believe in Jesus," "did you try to be a good person," et cetera. I don't know, no one on earth can say for sure.

The afterlife is eternal, either Hell or Heaven. Thus it doesn't really have a frame of time to reference it. 400 years could be nothing up there, or down there. That's what I was getting at. 400 years until that poor peasant who tried to be good will be judged... that's the example you were using before, right?
And when I say "up there" and "down there" you know I don't mean that I think Hell is down in the volcanic center of the earth and Heaven somewhere in the clouds. It's just a metaphor that's used.
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Postby sandmann » Jul 15, 2002 @ 9:08pm

I believe there is no hell. Well, there's a hell, but no one's in it except Satan and his demons. I believe every human is a part of God, and he shares himself with them in heaven. I don't adhere to Christian ideals. But the church pretty much lets you decide for yourself what heaven and hell is, at least mine does.
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Postby Paul » Jul 15, 2002 @ 9:10pm

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Postby James S » Jul 15, 2002 @ 9:18pm

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Postby sandmann » Jul 15, 2002 @ 10:03pm

yeah but taking the chance God gives you isn't necessarily proclaiming yourself as a Christian, or even saying you believe in God. It's doing what you should do. You have such a hardline view of heaven and hell, read my above post for what I think.
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Postby James S » Jul 15, 2002 @ 10:31pm

Sorry sandman, that was a little confusing. You're talking about taking the chance God gave to not believe in God, the person who gave you that chance. It just sounded kind of weird.

But according to my Bible taking the chance God gives you does mean becoming a Christian. Maybe not publicly or in an excessively worshipful way, but living your life as a Christian and believing in the faith.
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Postby Mike Bannick » Jul 15, 2002 @ 11:21pm

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Postby James S » Jul 15, 2002 @ 11:28pm

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Postby Paul » Jul 15, 2002 @ 11:42pm

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Postby BurningSheep » Jul 15, 2002 @ 11:53pm

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Postby David Horn » Jul 15, 2002 @ 11:55pm

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Postby Paul » Jul 15, 2002 @ 11:59pm

dave, are you watching graham norton? hes got STEVE IRWIN on there man. crocodile hunter looks AMAZING. good that steves so crazy in real life. hes uh... very 'animated'

wait, that means grahams going to hell too. nooooo!!!!
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