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Postby suchiaruzu » Feb 23, 2004 @ 11:06pm

Well, I for one am supporting Kerry. He seems more real to me. You guys ever seen this? http://www.newamericancentury.org/state ... ciples.htm
We discussed that in our English class. Apparently, there are a lot of Bush lobbiers and members of his government in there. And also, they seem to focus on defense and nothing but it. I don't neccesarily share this opinion, but the term "superiority complex" was dropped in class. Feel free to attack me for voicing that opinion now.
Anyway, if anyone has read Stupid White Men or for that matter any of Michael Moore's other books, he will realize that Bush has a lot more dirt on his heels than Kerry ever would. And I find Kerry to be an honest man, heck, a bit like Schwarzenegger, who might not be the most awsome politician (don't take me wrong, I am not saying Kerry is a bad politician by any means). When asked about sexual harrassment, Schwarzenegger admitted it all and said he was terribly sorry. Do you think for a single moment Bush would have done that? Come on, in your dreams!
Also, I know that JongJungBu is gonna jump in and tell me that I have shit to say about my view of the US government as he once did before. If that is indeed your belief, you cannot be supportive of the Iraq war either, and if you are, well, you are a hypocrite.
I read an article on Kerry the other day in a political magazine. He is more heroic and buddy-like than Bush. Besides, he wants to improve ties with his allies. I am far from criticising anything, but I feel that this is something the US needs right now, with only two friends left in the NATO...
Again, I suggest you read one of Moore's book before you start lobbying for one of the sides. I realize there is a silent majority that is with the president. But please do not bash me for voicing my opinion. After all it's a free country...
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Postby WaldioW » Feb 23, 2004 @ 11:17pm

I don't know what the background for the post is, but I really do not need another argument for Bush's guilt. We all know that he is a Nazi... The former Finance Minister (excuse me french lol) said it: No biological weapons in Irak and no other explicitly dangerous stuff. The plan has been existed for 6 years. This is no secret, we all know this. But as shapeshifter said it's "superiority complex". They fight, cause they're able to!
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Postby suchiaruzu » Feb 23, 2004 @ 11:27pm

I would like to be known that I
1.) did not write the post calling Bush a Nazi
2.) do not agree with what was said in it
Any admin who can see the IPs will be able to confirm that it comes from someone else.
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Postby sponge » Feb 23, 2004 @ 11:51pm

Bravo, a guy who can regurgitate propaganda. Nice job, you sucked in what the popular opinion force-fed to you. I hope you don't plan on sticking here, since I can already tell you're an idiot.
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Postby Andy » Feb 24, 2004 @ 12:05am

Do you people honestly believe that dumb shit? I don't even know where to start from.

Bush is a Nazi? Please: get real, grow up, or die and whatever you do, don't vote because you're too stupid. You know who killed more people than Bush? Clinton and the rest of the assholes at the UN: their bullshit policies, and under-the-table trade agreements starved millions of people; over a million of them were children. Think about that before throwing your humanist bullshit around. Think about those numbers before you start bitching about the 3000 Iraqi?s or whatever killed in this war. In fact, just try to think.

Bush stood up and acted; he stopped passing the responsibility onto other people who wouldn't take it. He made some mistakes, but he's still light-years better than all the other negligents. He didn't let an already horrible situation sit on the backburner for another decade getting worse. He tackled an unpopular problem.

Kerry is "More real"? The guy is the biggest vote panderer I've ever seen; isn't he making a salmon czar or some shit? The whole guy's platform is basically "not bush". He's stood by virtually nothing; he's playing the same old game with us: talking a lot without saying much (i.e. blowing smoke up our collective asses).

I like how he's going to deal with the deficit. The only thing he's really stood by concretely is that he's going to repeal Bush's tax cuts, and create educational and social programs (which will undoubtedly grow every FUCKING YEAR, and exacerbate the deficit). Way to go Kerry.

I also find it funny that he says he is for the middle class; I'll believe that shit when I see it. The middle class is almost always the class most tangibly victimized by pseudo-socialists like him.

Another thing, when you people say stuff like "[the US] only has two more friends left in NATO" you're missing a very important thing. WE'RE NOT "FRIENDS" WITH ANY OTHER NATION. We want to get an edge on them; they want to get an edge on us. Occasionally, we want to get an edge over the same people; you might call us friends then. But, we always play hardball internationally, and if we weren't, we wouldn't be the largest economy in the world.

And this New American Century initiative seems alright to me. I haven't had much time to look over it in detail, but their mission statement is about right. If our planners don't have a "superiority complex" (as you put it), we've got a problem. It's always got to be America First from our perspective. I know that's hard to hear for some of the pro-UN types -- but the USA isn't going to castrate itself voluntarily.

There are a couple reasons why Michael Moore should be on the front of a book called "stupid white men"; and the fact that he is the author is the least of them. It's amusing to me that people who have issues with Bush?s semantic manipulations, preach from the tome of a guy who relies entirely on fallacious reasoning (blanket observations/ over-simplifications/ ad-hominem derivates/ and non-sequiturs, in general).

And shapeshifter, while you may not be calling Bush a nazi; but you quote and idealogically align yourself with someone who does (Moore).
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Postby Brig » Feb 24, 2004 @ 12:19am

Ouch! I thought I heard a few necks get snapped.

I would say I disagree with Andy on the point of cooperation, but I don't. If other nations weren't so foolish, cooperation would not only be an option, but the way to go. Screw the inept UN.
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Postby Maf54 » Feb 24, 2004 @ 12:36am

How can Andy fight for the idea of a man such as Bush that mentions God in every speech and yet bash Christians every chance he has? That’s my question. :P I think anyone calling Bush a Nazi is and idiot too. And Sponge: although opinions talking about Bush being stupid are prevalent I don't think they are popular (as in majority).
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Postby Caesar » Feb 24, 2004 @ 12:45am

I'm still crying over the fact that Clark dropped out.
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Postby sandmann » Feb 24, 2004 @ 1:25am

The fates lead him who will;
Him who won't, they drag.

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Postby sandmann » Feb 24, 2004 @ 1:29am

The fates lead him who will;
Him who won't, they drag.

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Postby Alexander » Feb 24, 2004 @ 1:34am

This is the real Alex.
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Postby sponge » Feb 24, 2004 @ 1:36am

Bush, Kerry, Nader, it doesn't matter,
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Postby TheSnipr99 » Feb 24, 2004 @ 2:04am

I think Bush will win. But i think it will be close because of this Iraq thing.
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Postby Maf54 » Feb 24, 2004 @ 2:31am

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