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Postby James S » Nov 13, 2002 @ 5:21am

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Postby James S » Nov 14, 2002 @ 1:06am

But speaking of religion... I've decided to start my own! This religion is going to be based on Judas, the guy that betrayed Jesus.

Everyone's always like "THANK YOU JESUS!" for dying on the cross and stuff and opening the way for us to go to Heaven. But Judas... without Judas Jesus would never have died. And Judas suffered the ultimate punishment of damnation. I really feel sorry for Judas, because he was pretty much a pawn of destiny which took a move that must have been taken to save the king, but sacrificed himself.

Now, sure, he didn't do it for such sanctimonious reasons. He REALLY betrayed Jesus, and acted on his own. But I just think that that is such a SAD story! HE NEEDED TO EMBRACE ETERNAL DAMNATION FOR THE REST OF HUMANITY! THAT is the ultimate story of suffering. "THANK YOU JUDAS!" :D

So I'm starting a religion around Judas... or atleast a denomination of Christianity.
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Postby sandmann » Nov 14, 2002 @ 1:18am

He was damned eternally? I've never heard that one. That's stupid. If Jesus was supposed to die anyway, why would Judas be punished for being a catalyst?
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Him who won't, they drag.

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Postby James S » Nov 14, 2002 @ 1:57am

Ya, that's a debate thing. A lot of Christians believe Judas got to go to Heaven because he was just simply a pawn. But the fact is, Judas wasn't a pawn. He wasn't forced into doing it. He WANTED to do it. You see, it was prophecied that the Son of God would be betrayed be one of the closest people to him, but prophecying doesn't seal fate. There is no fate. Judas wasn't forced into doing it, he wasn't a pawn. He DID IT. Jesus also TOLD PETER that Peter would deny Jesus three times before the rooster crowed that night. That night he STILL denied Jesus three times. It's so weird like that. When something is prophecied it's going to happen, but it's not going to happen BECAUSE it was prophecied, do you know what I mean? I mean, I could prophecy that ... I'm going to eat chicken for dinner and get to bed late tonight... but I was going to do that even before it was prophecied, regardless of whether it was prophecied or not.

But anyway, to quote Jesus' final prayer before Judas came to betray him (and it's a LONG prayer. He prays for everyone from himself to the diciples to all believers, the prayer alone is an entire chapter):
"While I was with them [the Disciples], I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled."
So... everyone's good to go except poor Judas. And I truly feel horrible that that's how it worked out for him. So from now on, instead of saying "Thank you Jesus" (not like I ever did before, since I'm not black) I'm going to say "Thank you Judas" and tell other people to thank Judas because his was the truly horrible story.

Jesus even TOLD Judas specifically that Judas was going to betray him. It says at that moment Satan entered into him... So there you go, you understand it just about as much as I do... but poor Judas... poor, poor Judas.
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Postby Mechcommander » Nov 14, 2002 @ 2:04am

I dunno. I try not to think to deep into things. My brain tends to
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Postby sponge » Nov 14, 2002 @ 5:42am

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Postby James S » Nov 14, 2002 @ 5:44am

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Postby James S » Nov 15, 2002 @ 4:08am

ohh kay... :?

That's really stupid. Just because anybody does anything means we should do it too? That goes back to the jump off a cliff cliche.

I'm not going to drink because I think it only brings problems to people's lives.
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