Major Terrorist Attack on USA

[jongjungbu]

[Luciano U. Werner]

What is UAE?<br>Ric, I think the losses will be small because it's obvious that a massive landa assault will be costly. As I said, it's a miserable rock and hills terrain all over the country. To assault that kind of territory the losse would be what? 3 to 1? That kind of loss in manpower (assuming they would have the same kind of hardware and manpower, wich they don't, maybe except for the manpower), would be politically dangerous.<br>I guess most of the real and important action will be carried by guys who carry the "De opressor, liber" patch on the right shoulder. It's more economic, no one gets to know if it goes snafu and in a guerilla war (can this turn out to be anything else?) this causes the worst kind of damage: fear (in others words: low moral).<br>Oh, sure, we'll see F-117's takeing off and landing, those pretty tracers being fired at night to the sky and all that confetti on CNN. The real stuff, the important stuff (dead towel-heads that are or are supposed to be terrorists) will go totally off record. Fort Brag is going to love it.

[jongjungbu]

United Arab Emirates<br><br>Don't forget that the Afghanistan borders are sealed (I think). Cutting off trade and supplies means they cannot hold out forever I suppose.

[RICoder]

I think you are right Luci, about the covert stuff...and my friends at Bragg are steamin' to go...hehe...<br><br>As for the borders, I know that Iran and Pakistan have closed the borders, that only leave Ubekistan and...hmmm...who else?  China?  I gotta get a map, been a while since I looked.

[Dan East]

China has sealed off their border as well.<br><br>One problem with this "war" is that I don't know if we will ever know what happens in the end. bin Laden's bodyguards are instructed to kill him if it appears there is a chance he will actually be captured. They would probably try to utterly destroy his remains, as was done with Hitler. Or, the US may get info on his location through covert methods, and lay unbelievable waste to everything within a very large radius around that area via aircraft, including the possibility of a low-yield tactical nuclear weapon. In that case all that would be left of bin Laden would bin clumps of molecules.<br><br>Dan East

[Luciano U. Werner]

Dan, atomics is out of the question. A nuke is more of a fear inspiring weapon then a "usable" one(morals, politics, economy, etc). This will be resolved with "surgical strikes" (oxymoron was defined because of this word) and lots of covert ops (aka wet works).<br>bin Laden will obviously be killed, since there's no way he'll be extracted alive (logistically impossible).

[jongjungbu]

Suits me either way.

[Moose or Chuck]

Yes, but biological warfare is still much scarier than a nuke, and much easier to make. It also causes long lasting damages, especially when the morons leave town.

[jongjungbu]

But its harder to control.

[Dan East]

Wow!<br>The United Arab Emirates cut ties with the Taliban, the Islamic militia that claims to be the ruling regime of Afghanistan. Now, only two nations, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, recognize the Taliban as the legitimate Afghan government. <br><br>Dan East

[RICoder]

ack.  Saudi isn't coming around either I don't think.<br><br>too bad.

[Luciano U. Werner]

They won't use biological weapons because they don't have a pratical and efficient dilivery system (it's easier to do that with chemical weapons). Even the US doesn't have a good system. <br>And anyway, chemical and biological weapons are more efficient against civil populations then against soldiers. And they suck major as offensive weapons.

[RICoder]

NBC (Nuclear/Biological/Chemical) warfare is tough to pull off.  <br><br>Nukes because they are far reaching, and large scale.  The radioactivity tends to move around a lot.  So we won't use it, and they DON'T have it.<br><br>Biological, forget it.  TV has made it sound like some 5 year old with a chemistry set could grow fargin' anthrax in his bedroom.  Truth is, you have to get some (that's soooo hard).  If you get it, you have to keep it alive and then grow more.  Let's say you do that, AND its pure enough to do damage AND you somehow managed not to get exposed to it in the process.  Now you have to store it, move it, and distribute it.  ALL ON A NIVE DAY!  HAHAHA.  No.  Not so simple, not so cheap.<br><br>Chemical.  Well, weather is a very big factor, but lets say you are patient and get lucky.  Ok.  What are you going to use?  Mustard Gas?  You'd need a shit load of it.  Serin?  Where ya gonna get it?  Chemical is harder to get and make than bio stuff.<br><br>I believe 'they' are trying to get their hands on this stuff...but I doubt they have yet.<br><br>But, then, we've ignored them for 8 years...<br><br>

[Moose or Chuck]

What do you mean Biological and Chemical warefare is hard to deliver? A terrorist rents a plane for a day and flies over Manhattan sprinkling ebola virus out the engine. Or he just flushes some other highly infectious disease down the toilet on an airliner flight and watch it drop down onto any of a number of major cities! Are you dumb? Even I could do this! Or they could take an infected blanket and donate it to the Red Cross or some orphanage (sp?)! Come on! They've already got hundreds of terrorists in America this minute. They have records of people on 9/11 that, after the planes were grounded in a city that wasn't their original destination, never got another plane ticket home, who just disappeared, and who fit the profile.

[Luciano U. Werner]

Moose, it's way more complicated then that. We're not talking about how to make pipebombs. It's absurdly expensive and the worst part is the delivery system. No one has a good enough anwser about how to make a reliable one. Too many things could go wrong. You just need some rain and your vicious badass weapon goes down the drain (literally).