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Postby RICoder » Apr 1, 2002 @ 6:35am

Warren...lol...please

GALEELS!!! HAHAHA! No, they do not. They may have a few floating around, but they dropped those PIECE OF SHIT FAL KNOCKOFFS years ago.
-They mostly use M-16s.
-Their Helicopters are 99% US produced Apaches.
-Their planes, which they use often (and sold to the Chinese), are F16s.
-Their tanks are internally produced but use American parts. AND THEY SUCK ASS.

Uzis. hehehe....you are so funny. I couldn't even hit the broad side of a barn with one, and I've hit half-hights at 300 meters with a steel-sighted M16, and a coke bottle at >400 meters with a .308. Pfft...uzis. hehehehahahah.
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Postby TechMage » Apr 1, 2002 @ 6:52am

Speaking of guns. The other day, I was talking to my Grandpa, who is a gun collecter, about elephant guns. I asked if he had one, and he said that he didn't but that he could get one. I told him that I have been wanting to shoot one for a while. So he said that he would get one soon, and he would let me shoot it. He said that he has shot one before and he told me that you have to lean a bit forward when you shoot them, because of the kick-back. I'm so excited! I get to shoot an elephant gun!
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Postby Mike Bannick » Apr 1, 2002 @ 10:15am

woo hoo elephant gun! (I have to be sarcastic i just gotta! :D)50 caliber magnum sniper rifle is what i want to shoot :D
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Postby Warren » Apr 1, 2002 @ 7:19pm

Jeez, why'd I even start this thread? Ok, let's stop this thread and turn it into a discussion about ELEPHANT GUNS!!! YAY! Do they even shoot straight at all?
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Postby Village_Ideot » Apr 2, 2002 @ 3:32am

hey ricoder, i didn't make it and i have retarded friends so ahh...not retard bashing

but it is funny
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Postby RICoder » Apr 2, 2002 @ 6:52am

VI, you have me confused with someone else...I didn't say anything. I thought your little pic was funny. :)

Elephant guns. heh.

If you want real fun...listen to Mike B...

Shoot a <a href='http://www.barrettrifles.com/'>Barrett</a>. Trust me. Though, I will say the bolt action hurts a bit to shoot.
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Postby RICoder » Apr 2, 2002 @ 6:57am

...and warren...

It was sooooo fun!?!? I love arguing with you... :twisted:

About the Galleel. It is a piece of poop. So, in an effort to turn this into a gun thread...

I have a FN/FAL (among others, I collect). No BS, this is a REAL Belgian FAL, pre-ban, brand new. It took me 6 months and $3500US to get it, but I did. And WOW! One of the best firearms in the world I must say. It's one of my favorites, right next to the M16 (no, i don't have one, they only sell civilians AR15s...), and my PHAT Remington .308 modified-bad-ass-kevlar-stock-varix3-tactical-scope-mother-f#cker-police-quality-sniper-rifle. :) Which is nice for shooting coke cans at 400+ Meters.

Funny, I don't hunt though. It seems so odd to me that I am so anti-violence and anti-hunting, yet I collect firearms....hrm.
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Postby Village_Ideot » Apr 2, 2002 @ 9:53pm

sorry ricoder, i meant randall
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Postby Warren » Apr 3, 2002 @ 2:37am

Ok, let's debate about guns! I love the Uzi though, there's 4 types. The standard-Uzi, which is big, 600rpm (rounds per minute), and can have a long barrel for snipering (it's the only Uzi that can sniper). Then the Mini-Uzi, I love that one, it's a little smaller than the standard Uzi, but looks awesome. Firepower is 900rpm, but still very stable. Then the Micro-Uzi, the ultimate in close combat annihation! Can you say 1700rpm? You can empty a 40 round clip into a guy in 1.5 seconds. On single fire, it's accurate to 300 feet, but with full automatic, only 30 feet. 30 feet is real bad, but if there's a guy in front of you wrapped in a bomb, most of the 40 bullets (80 if you're carrying 2) will enter the guy. Plus the swinging shoulder thingy is cool. Then the Uzi-Pistol, which is a tiny cute Uzi that's a non-auto pistol. I'd prefer the IMI Desert Eagle though, but the Uzi pistol is so cute! I really like the IMI Jarico pistol, also called the Baby Desert Eagle. It's a smaller version of the DEagle, but looks really cool.

I don't know what the performance of the Galilee is, but the gun looks so ridiculiously cool, so who cares! If a guy pointed a Galilee at me, I'd soil my pants, and so would Village Ideot :wink:.

I hate the Luger, not only because it's nazi, but because it looks and sounds stupid. Some idiots at my school claim to have Lugers.

Avtomat Kalashnikov Model 1947 (AK-47), now [i]that's[i] a sweet gun. If you want one, don't get a cheap Chinese imitation, that's what Taliban fighters use, get the real Russian one, they're accurate and nice.




Ok, here's a paper I wrote back in September about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It's accurate, my teacher loved it (he gave me a 110% :D), and it's really stupidly long. You don't need to read it, if I were you, I wouldn't, it's too frickin' long; 20 pages! Anyway, here it is:

The history of Israel dates back to around 2000 BC. This is not completely accurate, because according to the Jewish calendar, it is the year 5762 right now, and will be the year 5763 next week! We had the year 2000 a while ago… The State of Israel was original two cities, Judea and Samaria, which later on joined, forming the Kingdom of Israel, with a new capital, Jerusalem around 1000 BC. Since then, Israel has been in countless wars. The first lost war was in about 550 BC, when Babylon exiled all the Israelites from Jerusalem. They regained Jerusalem only a few years after that, and resisted foreign rule for the next 500 years. Again, there were innumerable wars, until they were conquered by Alexander the Great, and Syria became their ruler (300 BC - 200 BC). The Jews revolted and won independence again (this is celebrated during Hanukah). Then at around 300 BC, Rome invaded and conquered Israel. Hyrcanus II was appointed King of Israel, after the defeat of Israel’s Jewish monarchy. Rome’s rule was relatively peaceful, with new cities being built, new larger temples being constructed, and the general welfare of the people improved. The Jewish people were not fond of this foreign rule, but lived with it because it was improving the country (from money from the king and Rome) and it was peaceful. In 4 BC, King Herod (father of Hyrcanus II) died, and Israel came under direct rule of Rome. Rome invaded Israel, completely demolishing Jerusalem and the main temple in 70 AD. The Jewish people were horrified, and moved to other cities in Israel. After that, Israel has been governed by Byzantine, many Arab countries, the Crusaders, Mamluk, the Ottoman Empire, and Britain. Britain controlled much of the Middle East, and changed many of the names and borders. Israel became Palestine in 1922 (Israel had been under Arabic rule since 630 AD). A Zionist movement in 1917 brought about 35,000 Jews to Palestine, mainly from Russia. At that time, Israel/Palestine was similar to the rest of the Middle East, a barren wasteland. Jerusalem was a dump, similar to how the Romans left it. The Arabs that were living there were very poor, with almost no education, housing, or anything. The 35,000 Jews that arrived built houses, roads, agriculture, and formed the kibbutz (independent communes). Between 1924 and 1932, 60,000 more Jews came to Israel. They settled in Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Jerusalem. They rebuilt much of the cities. In the later 1930’s, 165,000 more Jews moved to Palestine. The British government permitted the formation of a self-governing Jewish community, known as Yishuv, in 1920. The Vaad Leumi (their National Council) made programs to make a network of education, religious, and health and social services. During the three decades of being a British Mandate (1920-1948), Israel/Palestine’s agriculture expanded, factories were built, new roads were built throughout the country, the Jordan River was controlled and used for hydroelectric power, minerals were mined from the Dead Sea, unemployment dropped, and the overall economy greatly improved. In 1920, 1921, 1929, and from 1936-1939, Arabs used terrorism to revolt against the incoming Jews. They were quite dumb to do that, because without the Jews, Palestine would have remained a poor wasteland. The Vaad Leumi tried repeatedly to meat with Arab nationalist leader, but attempts failed. In 1937, Britain recommended splitting the country into two, one Jewish, one Arab. The Arabs completely and utterly disagreed. From 1920 to 1948, Britain had soldiers and battleships to prevent Jews from entering Palestine. The way they got in was through underground movements. The largest group was the Haganah, formed in 1920. In 1931, the Etzel was founded, and was used as a counter-terrorist group against Arab confrontation. In 1940, the militant group Lehi was formed. All the underground groups were disbanded with the establishment of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in May 1948. After World War II, Zionists wanted to move to Palestine and re-establish the State of Israel. The British, and Arabs, vigorously opposed. As boats of Holocaust survivors approached, British soldiers on the beaches opened fire on them, killing a several thousand. The secret Jewish militant group Lehi sneaked into Palestine, and approached the British from behind, forcing them to surrender. Britain promised to Palestine, that it would give Palestine home rule, led by Arabs. On November 29, 1947, the UN General Assembly voted to partition Palestine into two states; the Jewish community accepted it; the Arabs repudiated it.
On May 14, 1948, the State of Israel was declared. In less than 24 hours, the militaries of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq invaded Israel. This came to be known as Israel’s War of Independence. The newly organized, poorly equipped Israel Defense Force fought back. By this time, about 650,000 Jews have moved to Israel. The fighting went on for 15 months, and took the lives of 6,000 Israeli soldiers. During the first few months of 1949, negotiations where conducted under UN auspices between Israel and each invading country, except Iraq. At the end of the agreements, the coastal plain, Galilee, and the Negev desert were within Israel’s sovereignty. Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) came under Jordanian rule (the West Bank means the west bank of Jordan, not Israel, otherwise it would be the East Bank). The Gaza Strip came under Egyptian rule, and the major city of Jerusalem was divided in half, the east side (including the Old City) was controlled by Jordan, and the west side controlled by Israel. After the war, Israel made its parliament, the 120-seat Knesset. David Ben-Gurion, head of the Jewish Agency, became the first prime minister, and Chaim Wiezmann, head of the World Zionist Organization, became Israel’s first president. On May 11, 1949, the State of Israel became the 59th member of the United Nations. The War of Independence put a huge burden on the rapidly growing population. Israel’s government took out loans from world banks, and used some of Germany’s reparations to build housing, mechanize agriculture, establish a national airport (ELלעALלא), develop industries, and expand roads, telecommunications, and electricity networks. By the time of after a decade since the State of Israel’s inauguration, the country’s industry output doubled, industrial exports quadrupled, and the population increased to two million. There were enormous projects to make more desert areas fertile; trees were planted along almost 500 miles of highway. Education flourished with both Jewish and Arabic schools. Culture and artistic activities prospered, blending Middle Eastern, North African, Eastern European, and Western European traditions. Jews from around the world moved to Israel, bringing their own culture and traditions. What Israel did 10 years, is what the rest of the Middle East could never do. While the west side of Jerusalem was as technologically advanced as Europe and North America, the east side was still a slum, and Israel could do nothing about it. The peace agreement of 1948 was constantly being violated by Israel’s neighboring countries. Egypt blocked Israeli ships and Israel-bound ship from passing through the Suez Canal, the blockade of the Straits of Tiran was tightened, Arab terrorist attacks became more frequent, and Egypt was steadily transforming the Sinai peninsula into a huge Egyptian military base. In October 1956, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan signed a tripartate military alliance. In an eight-day campaign, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) captured the Gaza Strip, the entire Sinai peninsula, and stopped short of the Suez Canal 10 miles east of it. The UN then stationed a United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) at the Israeli-Egyptian border, to insure safe passage of all ships through the Suez Canal. After that, Israel withdrew the territory taken in stages. The years of 1958 to 1968 was called the Years of Consolidation, when there was peace and no war in Israel. In Jerusalem, the permanent home for the Knesset was constructed, the Hadassah Medical Center was built, and the Hebrew University was constructed. The economy grew at a rapid pace.
In May 1967, Egypt moved troops into the Sinai peninsula. Jordan and Syria built up their armies and moved them to the border of Israel. Israel found itself in the middle with fronts on all sides. On June 5, 1967, Israel attacked Egypt to the south, a counterattack to Jordan on the east, and a clash with Syria in the Golan Heights in the north. After six days of fighting, new cease-fire lines were put in place. From these new borders, Judea, Samaria, Gaza, the Sinai peninsula, and the Golan Heights went under Israeli control. Because of the seizure of the Golan Heights, villages in the north were freed from 19 years of recurrent Syrian shelling. Passage of Israeli and Israel-bound ships through the Straits of Tiran was ensured, and all of Jerusalem, east and west, came under Israeli territory. In August of 1967, at the Khartoum Summit meeting, the Arab position called for “No peace with Israel, no negotiations with Israel, and no recognition of Israel.” In September 1968, Egypt and Israel had an all-out war at the Suez Canal border, which ended in 1970. Then on December 6, 1973, on Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the Jewish calendar, Egypt and Syria conducted a surprise attack. The IDF responded and pushed back the front past the Suez Canal, and came within 20 miles of the Syrian capital of Damascus. On March 26, 1979, Egypt and Israel signed a peace treaty in Washington D.C., which made Israel withdraw from the Sinai peninsula, and Egypt recognizing the State of Israel and international borders. In the early 1980s, there was a rise in terrorist attacks from the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) in the northern part of Israel (Galilee). The Palestinians moved to southern Lebanon after being expelled from Jordan in 1970 (no one wants the Palestinians, not even Arabic countries). In 1982, the IDF carried out the Operation Peace for Galilee, to remove the mass of the PLO’s organizational and military infrastructures. Since then, Israel has maintained a small security zone in southern Lebanon to safeguard the people in Galilee. In 1991, 700,000 Jews from the crumbling Soviet Union move to Israel. On September 13, 1993, in Washington D.C., Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Palestinian President Yasser Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles, setting the outline for limited Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and Gaza. On October 26, 1994, Israel signs a peace treaty with Jordan. On September 28, 1995, Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat sign the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement, which starts the election of the Palestinian legislative council. On November 4, 1995, Rabin is assassinated by right-wing Jewish extremist Yigal Amir at a peace rally in Tel Aviv, because Amir was against the withdrawal of Jewish settlements in the West Bank. In 1996 election, Benjamin Netanyahu replaces him as prime minister. Since then until today, the Palestinian activists have used terrorism to try to promote their cause, but they are preventing any kind of meeting between Israeli representatives and Palestinian representatives, so no agreements can be made. On February 7, 1999, King Hussein of Jordan (not to be confused with Saddam Hussein of Iraq) dies. King Hussein organized meetings and plans to bring total peace to the Middle East. He was one of the only Arab leaders that wanted peace in Israel and the Middle East. Netanyahu speaks of the grief of the people of Israel “almost matches the grief of the people of Jordan”. On May 18, 1999, Labour Party leader Ehud Barak becomes prime minister, pledges that he will be “a prime minister for all Israelis”. On February 6, 2001, right-wing Ariel Sharon becomes prime minister of Israel, and states that he will bring peace to the Middle East, just like how all the other prime ministers have said. The conflict in the Middle East will continue until the activists stop the rioting, and let the government officials negotiate a resolution agreement. The main reason for the conflict is the Jewish settlements in the Palestinian-ruled West Bank. The Palestinian activists want all of Israel to be Palestine, which will obviously never happen. The majority of the Palestinians are peaceful people, who just want to live their lives, but it’s the few extremists, the activists, the rioters, and the terrorists, that ruin it all for everyone. The Kingdom of Israel have been in innumerable wars for over 4,000 years; the Palestinians are just one of the many.
Timeline:

August 18, 2001 –
The IDF attacks Palestinian national security headquarters located in the Gaza Strip, in response to Palestinians sending 10 mortar bombs into Jewish settlements.
August 19, 2001 –
In response to mortar bombings on the Gush Katif settlements on this day, IDF helicopters attacked the headquarters of Force 17 in Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip.
August 22, 2001 –
Palestinian terrorists shell Wadi Aza in Central Gaza; the IDF sends helicopters and destroys terrorist’s vehicles and weapons.
A Palestinian Police barrier in Arava was leveled by the IDF in response to shooting at the Tul Karem Brigade Headquarters. The shooting originated at the Palestinian Police barrier.
An IDF force identified three terrorists near Shave Shomeron, while the Palestinian terrorists were trying to plant a bomb under a car. The terrorists tried to run away, but two were shot and killed, one escaped, got a group of terrorists he was with, and attacked the Israeli soldiers. No Israelis were hurts, and three more Palestinians were killed.
August 24, 2001 –
An IDF force prevents a terrorist attack on the Egyptian-Israeli border.
August 25, 2001 –
An IDF officer and two soldiers were killed on this morning from attempted terrorist on an IDF post in Gush Katif in the Gaza Strip.
August 27, 2001 –
The Headquarters of the Popular Front of the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) was struck by an operation by security forces in Ramallah. The PFLP is responsible for many Palestinian terrorist attacks on Israel, primarily car bombs.
Palestinians were stopped at the Egyptian-Israeli border trying to smuggle weapons into the Gaza Strip. The Palestinians set many fires, and the IDF retaliated with machinegun fire.
The IDF seized the posts of the village of Beit Jala to prevent Palestinians from opening fire on Jerusalem.
August 28, 2001 –
In response to a shooting attack near Itamar, which killed one Israeli civilian, IDF tanks destroyed the Palestinian General Security building that was responsible.
August 30, 2001 –
The IDF mission in the “Soofa corridor” was completed to protect Israeli civilians.
August 31, 2001 –
Two Jordanian infiltrators were caught trying to smuggle into Israel from the Dead Sea area.
September 1, 2001 –
Two schools in Hebron did not open on this first day of school, because of repetitive fire from Palestinians into the Jewish settlement of the city.
September 3, 2001 –
In response to shootings in the West Bank, and attempted terrorist attacks in Jerusalem, IDF helicopters struck a Palestinian General Intelligence position in Kfar Dura in Judea.
September 5, 2001 –
Six senior officers from the Israeli Home front Command, left for Bombay, India to give a lecture on national disaster management.
September 9, 2001 –
A 19-year-old IDF soldier was killed in a terrorist attack in Nahariya on this day.
The IDF responds to three vicious terror attacks that killed five Israeli civilians.
A Palestinian building was demolished that controlled the access route to Netzarim. The building had been firing at Israeli civilians and soldiers passing by.
IDF soldiers struck the Tanzim headquarters in the city of Ramallah with helicopters because of the escalating violence there.
A curfew has been put up in the village of Jalbun do to IDF activity and the threat of terrorism. There is also a curfew in the village of Arubbuna.
September 10, 2001 –
A Palestinian police post in Netzarim was razed after repeated warnings to stop the shooting and shelling at Israeli civilians.
September 11, 2001 –
IDF forces seized Palestinian control posts near Jenin, in response to the large chain of local terrorism.
Palestinians celebrate terrorist attacks in New York City and the Pentagon as Israelis mourn.
September 12, 2001 –
IDF forces tear down a Palestinian Security Forces site in Jenin. The site was a center of terrorist planning.
September 13, 2001 –
The IDF reinforced its force around the city of Jericho due to the threat of terrorism.
September 15, 2001 –
There were three terrorist attempts in the Gaza Strip. IDF soldiers stopped two armed Palestinian terrorists that were about to open fire on the force. They responded, killing both terrorists. In northern Gaza Strip, soldiers noticed a terrorist who was trying to place an explosive in the area. The IDF opened fire, slaying Palestinian fanatic. In Karni-Netzarim, IDF troops distinguished a terrorist preparing to gun down the force. The troops retaliated, killing the activist.
September 16, 2001 –
An IDF soldier is killed, and another lightly wounded after fire exchange in southern Ramallah. Palestinian activists opened fire on Israeli troops during an activity. IDF forces, including the Duvdevan (Israeli secret police), paratroopers, Duhiphat, Armory, Border Police, and the IAF (Israeli Air Force) were at the initiated activity. The forces arrested five senior Palestinian terrorists.
Major Issues:
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict comprises of three major issues. One: Palestinian occupation of designated areas (West Bank and the Gaza Strip). Two: Palestinian autonomy of PLO occupied territories, and the possibility of the exile of thousands of Jewish settlements in the West Bank. Three: Discontinuation of Palestinian terrorism.
After the War of Independence in 1948, the West Bank was controlled by Jordan. In 1993, when Palestine was allowed to form a government, they controlled the West Bank and the Gaza Strip with limited self-rule, with direct rule from Israel. This was not enough for Palestinian people. Riots erupted, terrorism plagued the borders of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and surrounding Israeli cities and Jerusalem, and anti-Israeli and anti-Semitist feeling engulfed Palestinian extremists.
What the Palestinian anti-Zionists want are the thousands of Jewish settlements in the West Bank to disperse, and to have full Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. What they really want is for Israel to become Palestine, but that can’t happen. Most Palestinians are happy with the current arrangement, with limited Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, because they are Israeli supported, so the economy is always maintained by the Israeli’s world economy power. Without that, Palestine would probably end up as other Arab countries, like Egypt, or back to how Palestine was in 1922.
A major issue in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is terrorism. Palestinian activists plant car bombs, suicide bombs, bombs in buildings, start mass riots, fire on Israeli civilians and soldiers, and launch little rocks with sling-shots. The terrorists think they are helping the PLO get closer to sovereignty, but they are making it much, much, much worse. Because of the terrorism, political meetings between Israel and the PLO cannot take place. Making the Israeli people live in terror and fear only heightens anti-Palestinian sentiment. As I’ve said before, if the Palestinians had never resorted to pointless violence, they would probably have the West Bank as Palestine, or at least have improved limited self-rule than today. Because of this hostility, Israel will not grant Palestine its request for total self-rule, and especially not to be a country. As Prime Minister Sharon has said, “We will not hand over a grain of sand to the Palestinians”. Terrorism is the great hurdle that’s blocking the ambition for peace in the Middle East.
Continuing Conflict:
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict continues because of one word. Terrorism. If the Palestinians never used terrorism, the Israeli Knesset would have given the Palestinians much of the West Bank (and maybe the Gaza Strip and Golan Heights), and parts of Jerusalem, with open peaceful borders, and the Palestinians would have total self-rule. Unfortunately that’s not what happened. Instead of settling things with words, they used bullets, rocks, and bombs. I don’t know how they can think this will promote their purpose, because the Israelis do not want to give land to barbaric animals with no concern for life. The majority of the Palestinian people are peaceful and happy, and just want to live their lives, but it’s the few fanatics that ruin it. If these few fanatic activists would stop with their meaningless violence, Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) can have an opportunity to negotiate and have a compromise. But with these terrorist attacks, meetings cannot be arranged, so nothing can be done. This has been going on for the last ten years. Israelis, along with the peaceful Palestinians want to see the terrorism come to the end, but when that’ll happen, we don’t know. If you want a country to give you land, the last thing you should do is kill the people who live in it! President of the PLO, Yasser Arafat, promotes the terrorism, which contributes to the extreme fanaticism. The excessive devotion is so high that people are giving their lives to it. Suicide bombing is more dangerous than car bombs and planted bombs, because the detonator is right at the scene, and can explode at his wish. Fortunately, most suicide bombers only manage to kill themselves. Terrorism is a hard war to win when the terrorists are loyal enough to conduct kamikaze missions. That is why the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will continue for much time.
Resolution:
There is no foolproof way to end the conflict in the Middle East. One way is to move all the Palestinians into the West Bank, take out all the Jewish settlements and move them outside of the West Bank. Then have a completely closed border between the West Bank, Israel, and Jordan, similar to the Berlin Wall. It would be called the West Bank Wall. The West Bank would be directly ruled by Israel, no Palestinian government. After the Palestinians stop their violence, and agree to be peaceful, the wall would be torn down, Jewish settlements let back in, and Palestinians would be allowed to move to anywhere in Israel (to how it is today). Limited self-rule for the West Bank and the Gaza Strip would be restored too. If they break the agreement, they will be sent to the Gaza Strip, where there will be a wall blocking Israel and Egypt, and they will not be allowed to visit Jerusalem. Again, the PLO will be made to sign an agreement to stop all terrorism and violence. If successful, the wall will be demolished, Palestinians can live anywhere again, and limited self-rule will be returned to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. The only way to stop the terrorism and meaningless violence is to force them to stop it. This will only be done if negotiations are unsuccessful, and terrorism gets too out of hand. There is one guaranteed thing at the end of all this, there will never be a country named Palestine.


If you read this, wow, but if you didn't, then I don't care at all. I haven't read it since I wrote it, so if you want to argue anything in it, you can if you want. Anyway, UZIS RULE!! YAY! Is this the longest post of whole text ever?
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Postby Paul » Apr 3, 2002 @ 2:42am

for fucks sake warren, PARAGRAPHS!!!!

no-one will read it otherwise.
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