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We should all do something against TCPA

PostPosted: Dec 11, 2002 @ 12:50pm
by Blacky

PostPosted: Dec 11, 2002 @ 1:59pm
by sponge

PostPosted: Dec 11, 2002 @ 7:58pm
by Blacky

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 3:42am
by NinthOption

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 3:52am
by TechMage
Just use an old comp to download movies, mp3s, and other "warez," and use it to rip movies, mp3s, backup copies, etc.

We all know that this has been coming. Why do you think that your PC has a serial number? Soon they will have serial numbers on every componit in your PC and they will all be registered to you. So if you do an "illegal" thing, then they will bust you. Soon the internet will be very "secure." So secure that it will be almost impossible to do anything online without it being recorded by corporations and your government.

Yes it is taking away your privacy and yes it is wrong, but companies are tired of being hacked, there software stolen and there movies and music being pirated and governments want to make it not possible for criminals and terrorists to use the internet for communication. This is the excuse to incorporate such things, but we all know it can and will be abused. So hold onto that old PC, because the future of computing will be "regulated."

People will willingly go along with this because they will believe that terrorism will evaporate, there children will be free from online sex offenders and porn, no longer will people lookup how to make a pipe bomb online, and their credit card numbers wont be stolen.

The government and corporations have already begun this "secure" internet. So I don't think anybody will be able to stop them now.

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 4:00am
by James S
Ya man, just buy the software and it would never have come to this. Don't complain because y'all are the ones that caused this. Sure it's wrong, but it IS your fault.

uhm... what was the point I was making? Ya... OH YA. So uhm, they're going to make the ultimate utopian society, the internet, restricted?! What's up with that? I don't go searching for porn, but the point of the internet is that everyone is equal and everything is available.

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 4:17am
by NinthOption
Haveing an old PC won't matter, but thats not my point.

My point is that we will not be able to stop them on the normal levels of peaceful protest, it may take something more drastic, what, I don't know, but something. Like I said the dream is dying quickly, and we are its last defenders. Our kind already changed the world once, the question is: can we do it again? Can we stop the world spiral into a world of them? I personally would die a 1,000 deaths at the hands of terrorists, or never make a dime due to priates to bring the dream back once and for all. Imagine a world where one can say what he wants without being watched, a world without knowlege forbidden to people because they don't want you to know, a world where a balance with the corarations and the consumers is reached, and fair use is the rule not the exception, a world where someone can live out their dreams without being watched at every corner, and thrown away forever without anyone knowing because he did something someone didn't approve of. Now imagine the opposite of this world the previous. A world where the anything you do can be labled as 'terrorist', and no one hears from you again, a world where no one is alowed to know certain things like "what acctully is happening in those computer things", a world where fair use isn't there, and we are all just a list of online purchuses. The struggle between these worlds is why I get up in the morning. I will have my first world, in life or in death I will have it. How and when is the only question.

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 4:28am
by NinthOption

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 4:34am
by Village_Ideot

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 4:36am
by James S

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 4:51am
by NinthOption
Ha ha, you've been in the system too long Moose.(or something)

But that is interesting maybe collage is designed to beat the spirt out of you so there very few smart, respected, and spirted people left to challage the corp. elite.

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 4:56am
by James S
nah... just finals week, and there's ALWAYS one of these debates going on somewhere. It gets tiresome.

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 5:02am
by NinthOption
Yeah I have finals next week. Sucks ass. I know i'll fail my goddamn chinese exam.

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 5:05am
by damian
Yeah, I agree, these discussions are tiresome. While I believe you guys are right to some extent, you're exaggerating everything.

Like TM said, just keep your old comp and it'll still work. If less people buy new, TCPA-enabled computers, then they won't profit and the plan will be scratched...pretty simple.

Or you can just create a second Internet... :D

If you want to take a stand, stop saying the companies are evil while stealing from them at the same time.

PostPosted: Dec 12, 2002 @ 5:49am
by NinthOption
It's not the TCPA that is the big problem. I talking about the whole deal: the DMCA, the NET act, TIA, the CIPA, the CBDTPA, everything.

And what the fuck are talking about, "just keep your old comp and it'll still work"? NO NO NO, the whole internet is going to shit. It doesn't matter if your accessing it from an IBM-360!

And frankly I DON'T "steal" software EVER. I still don't think I want basicly a camra watching everything I do on my computer EVER. Would you like a camra in your home watching everything you do. It doesn't matter that your not doing anything illegal! You still don't want it there.