The Fate of the Union

by **Mike Wagstaff** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 3:23am

Perhaps more pressing than any reason presented so far in favour of war is the fact that Saddam's regime appears to have been among the most in history. The western world has to accept a lot of responsibility for this, but to do nothing now could consign thousands, maybe millions, more innocent Iraqis to their deaths in the long term.

by **RICoder** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 3:27am

Its sad that no one wants to talk about that either. A guy in congress said, yesterday, "How many frenchmen does it take to defend paris?"...."they don't know, they've never tried!"

It's so true as well...in 10 years, when he has nukes and a serious army built up, and he starts invading Saudi...I wonder what people would say...

by **James S** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 4:37am

How about in a week and two days... that will fit my schedule best.

by **TechMage** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 9:48am

by **James S** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 4:49pm

by **David Horn** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 7:09pm

by **Warren** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 7:39pm

by **James S** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 7:45pm

by **HobbesAB** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 7:53pm

by **TechMage** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 8:38pm

by **James S** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 9:29pm

Hobbes, you get a gold star.

Tech. It's not "a lot of Christians I meet are very ignorant..." it's "a lot of people..." Being Christian has NOTHING to do with their ignorance, they're just ignorant all around. It just so happens that the majority of the people in the US are stupid and the majority of the people are Christian. There is no correlation.

I'm a Christian and I'm very educated when it comes to science. Religion and science never clash, one cannot explain things about the other. There is absolutely NO PLACE in which religion and science over lap, or even have the opportunity to do so. Some ignorant people try to force one to precede the other, whether the precedence is religion or science does not matter. The person that says science can explain everything is a fool, and the person that says religion can explain everything is weak in faith and zealous. My intellectual pursuits have never contradicted my religious pursuits. Infact, everything that science has taught me has only strengthen my religious beliefs.

Religion does not restrict anyone. Some people just want to be restricted. Some gain this restriction through science, others through religion, some through fast food. It's just their vice, their hobby, their obsession. There are always whackos out there. But this is America, if some whacko doesn't want their kid taught evolution then the parent can homeschool that child. If they're too lazy to do it then they shouldn't be complaining about the solid, well rounded education that they're receiving for free. What these ... "enthusiasts" don't understand is, you have to understand and be educated on all points of view in order to understand why one is right. You can't understand why killing is bad unless you understand what murder is. Just because killing is bad doesn't mean people shouldn't be told what death is.

editing your posts afterwards is lame.

by **Warren** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 9:39pm

Moose, I know a super religious person that refuses to take medications, even if they really need it, they say that Christianity denounces medicine.

by **James S** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 9:57pm

Who might that be? Because I don't see anywhere in the Bible that it says that medicine is bad. Some people are really messed up. I don't think God's going to heal someone when they refuse to be healed by medicine. Maybe God gave us the knowledge to understand medicines and to make them. Doctors and medicines are a conventional miracle. Some people are so blind.

by **damian** » Feb 18, 2003 @ 9:59pm

There's always a few wackos everywhere... don't concentrate on them.

by **sandmann** » Feb 19, 2003 @ 2:48am

The Fate of the Union

Right war, wrong reasons?

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