GooFather is a Man Whore and I'm a piece of shit.

[sponge]

*BUZZ* WRONG makes you look like an unintelligent little kid.

I can't give you a list because I don't have a BE. But I said that because Dan saw that there was, and I have a great amount of respect for him and his opinions. So when he says stuff was stolen and cobbled together, I believe him, as there isn't any other evidence otherwise.

[JustinT.]

Donation? I wonder if it's tax deductible?

...Me thinks he sees tremendous legal problems for Goop in his future...

To be continued???

[GreyWolf Ghost]

Sponge

Then in future , your opinion is not required!!!!

You do not speak from first hand knowledge, you just quote.

In the real world that is hear say.

I too have a respect for Dan. I think any effort shown to us BE 300 users shouls be rewarded.

However when you just blindly repeat a mistruth it tends to snowball.

As is the case here

I am telling you form first hand knowledge

AS eXpod sits right now both versions FREE and Donated Members versions.

There is NOTHING and I mean Nothing stolen, pilfered or copied form other apps.

Now if I wanted to be a DUMB dick like so many...

I could say Dan's DeXplorer is nothing more then a copy of Microsoft's Explorer, with some pretty icons and WinZip code.......

Would it be true???????

Most likely not, but it could cause damage and I have people who follow what I say and would blindly agree and start a flame war over it.

BUT IT WOULD NOT BE RIGHT!!!!!!!!

Dan worked hard to develop his app, it is seen as very usefull by many.

Goo ( Michael ) has worked just as hard to open new doors for BE300 users.
He has faced many jealous people who have made baseless statements.

I mean what will it take to stop all the hate???????

This whole issue is sooooooo petty it's unreal.

Untill someone posts a list of stolen apps, it is all garbage and HEAR SAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**I just went over this and saw my typo's but hell it's sunday and I am too lazy to spell check and realy don't care if it comes across as mental diarrhea.**

Fire away spelling and grammer POLICE

[sponge]

I never repeated any truths, I said why don't the developers go after Goo if the programs are really theirs? It implied a sense of doubt too. It seems BE users are quick to defend any attack, without being unsure of what it really is! (This is not a generalization, as I have been on many sites, in many forums, and the same trend is there.)

I simply said "If Goo is stealing the developer's programs, then why aren't the developers going after Goo?" It just also happens that I think very lowly of Goo, and when I learned about the entire conflict, there was nothing so outlandish at Goo's alleged actions.

Dan's DEXPlor isn't relevant at all, because he used all his own code in the process of making it. And that WinZip comment is just ignorant, since gzip was around long before WinZip was. You proved no point with that, besides the fact you can't seem to formulate your arguments too well, language barrier or not.

[SiGen]

Blah, Blah, Blah.

You know what i think?

Epod/XPod/EpodXP, well you know, the project to get a wince 2.11 shell in the BE300 was just wonderful. It was started by someone who really liked to help the BE users to enjoy a better GUI. his name CButters.

Then suddenly, came a guy called Goo, who i will admit he did a great job improving CButters epodXP.
The main problem started when he began to ask a "Donation" or i would better call it "an Obligated Donation" where users must donate to get access to new versions of epod hack. He transformed the word "Donate" which means "To gift, to give, by will" to "must give to get". That way he started to evade copyrights since officially he "IS NOT" selling software, but you know what the obligated donation is. he was making business, selling of the software with lots of utilities by other authors, including wince 2.11 shell (still copyrighted by M$?) and even the idea of epod hack wasnt from him, but CButters
Still, the way he gave access to the members (guys who donated) was so silly. After donation is made, you must mail him and tell you have donated. I just created a new hotmail account, mailed him saying "hey Goo, i have donated, good job, btw". He replied telling me my membership and password to access to members area. Too easy if you ask.
Until then, i didnt have any problems since i could access to the newest software releases without have made a donation

The problem came when he splited the BE300 community into 2, Goo's followers (donation guys) and antidonation guys. It was by that time when some developers started to release software for the BE300 since eXpod was too famous (it even appeared in Handango, some games and applications say: Compatible with e125, Maestro, blh, blah, and Be300 with eXpod 5.1). Those were applications written for wince 3.0 or compatible with PPC.

But was when Dan really made an application for BE300, written for BE300 (not for PPC and BE300 gets the compatibility by eXPOD).
Some developers, including Dan, started to notice that the way eXPOd is installed, by making backup restoration and sharing .bin files, might be a way to share not just a GUI, but also a way to warez some applications like DEXplor.

Goo knew that if that info is rumored, the whole empire would come down to ashes. he started to ban people, delete and close threads related with.

simple uh? it was too good that by those times of troubles, i got my h1910 and since then i dont worry about what the future of the BE300 will be.

[Cameron]

Why don't we just lock the thread? We both know neither side will back down, and that in the end someone will start a flame war that'll bring yet another wave of trolls from the be forums to pm who will anonymously post hate messages, just like last time. Oh and yes, I am the king of run-on sentences.

[SiGen]

ok, then lets lock thread and make a new one in pdai.org j/k cammy

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